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  Will God resurrect our beloved pets? What do you think?

  by Pallbearer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower doesn't hold out any hope for us ever seeing our beloved animals again.

  i find it very difficult to believe that god -- a god of love -- would refuse to resurrect an animal that we had become so attached to.

  over the years i have bonded with no less than four (4) dogs, all of which were/are like family to me.

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  I remember that we believed that the Ransom sacrifice of Jesus only covered humans, so animals wouldn't be resurrected.

  Anyway one day while out in the ministry with our visiting circuit overseer we got into a good chat with a householder. After listening to the promise of a new world, he asked "I have a favourite horse, it's my pride and joy. To me it wouldn't be paradise for me if I couldn't be riding my horse there. Do you think that if my horse died it would happen?"

  So I was thinking how do I tactfully say to him "no" without getting bogged down, when the circuit overseer (much to my surprise and open mouth) chipped in immediately with "of course your beloved horse will be with you in paradise. Here's the Bible scripture which proves it."

  And he proceeded to open his Bible and read the verse in Psalms about God opening his hand and supplying everyone's heart's desire.

  When we walked away I challenged him on it. But he was adamant that if that was this man's desire God would fulfil it for him, although he did add "it might not be the exact same horse, but it would be the closest copy possible to satisfy that man's needs" in the New World.

  But years later when I was PIMO I figured the C.O. probably would have said anything if he thought that by doing so, he could get the man to agree to a Bible study...
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  Not invited to congregation “get togethers”. They finally said it

  by solomon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we don’t get many invitations to congregational social gatherings.

  we don’t attend midweek meetings and miss about 1/3 of sunday meetings.

  we go in service at least once a month.

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  Wonder what they would make of Jesus inviting the blind, lame, etc to the banquet.

  "No, No, Lord. They don't participate in our weekly meetings..."

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  How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

  i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

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  Regarding my comment above, that should have been Hebrews 11:16.

  Only spotted my mistake.
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  How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

  i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

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  As a multi-generational born in, I probably accepted it all as it was presented. As I matured I served as an MS and in time an elder, having the "privilege" of giving talks at District conventions.

  However I had a few personal niggles which I couldn't discuss with anyone inside the KH. I loved doing personal research in other Bibles, commentaries, and church history books - in fact, I still do!

  The crunch came when I had to give two different talks on the book of Hebrews. I had never swallowed the idea that Jesus = Michael the Archangel. And trying to prepare a talk where in Hebrews 1, the writer (the JWs insist it was Paul) goes to great lengths to show that Jesus is NOT an angel/archangel made that impossible to my way of thinking.

  The 2nd talk was about faith in Hebrews 11. The JWs teach that Abraham and all the other faithful men of old were waiting for God's heavenly kingdom to rule over the earth - the place they would be resurrected to.

  Except that Hebrews 11:6 certainly does NOT say it.

  In the end I got up and parrotted off the official lines but stopped giving talks, for health reasons, shortly afterwards.

  Once the blinkers come off it does not take long to get used to the light of the world.
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  The sky is falling- maybe

  by joey jojo in

  1. social
  2. current

  i am actually not a 'sky is falling' guy, but i wanted to comment on the australian bushfires.. you may or may not believe the science behind global warming, however i personally put more faith in verified, scientific data than the words of fat cat, self-serving politicians.

  climate science has predicted, based on data, that we will see more prolonged, extreme weather events, higher average temperatures, rising sea levels due to ocean expansion and glacial melting.

  and this is exactly whats happening.

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  Regarding Australia. The Northern Territories reintroduced fracking which takes millions of gallons of water. Once that is taken out of the system, the result is bound to be dry surface ground leading to drought.

  Regarding climate change generally. If evolution is correct then mankind will either adapt or die out (like the dinosaurs) and a new dominant species will emerge. Or not. You can decide for yourselves.
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  Irrelevant and Irreverent.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  from an african perspective.

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  christians without churches.... https://tribuneonlineng.com/christians-without-churches/.

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  From an African perspective.

  Christians without churches...

  https://tribuneonlineng.com/christians-without-churches/
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  Page about JWs

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stumbled upon this jw material website and thought i would share it with you all.

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  http://ed5015.tripod.com/jehovahswitnesses.htm.

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  Lost in the fog

  I stumbled upon this JW material website and thought I would share it with you all.

  http://ed5015.tripod.com/JEHOVAHSWITNESSES.htm
  
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  venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need to vent again here.

  because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.

  my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.

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  Lost in the fog

  A person with blinkers on cannot see sideways no matter what you do.

  I have former JW "friends" who every time they hear about a disaster such as a tornado, hurricane, or earthquake will immediately say "Oh the poor brothers. I will pray that they are safe."

  Why don't you pray for the rest of the people who have suffered? But they will not, because they are told that those people are going to be destroyed at Armageddon anyway.

  Callous, uncaring, and blinkered.
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  Why are they buying names and addresses?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. current

  apparently the jws of coventry, england, have been spending their congregation's money buying names and addresses from the local council.

  i wonder what they want them for and is this something that each congregation does?

  i'm curious now.

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  Apparently the JWs of Coventry, England, have been spending their congregation's money buying names and addresses from the local council.

  I wonder what they want them for and is this something that each congregation does? I'm curious now.

  https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/hundreds-thousands-peoples-data-sold-17400092
  
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  Bradford KH

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at least this former kh in bradford will help house someone with a disability because it is all on the flat.

  plans to convert former church in great horton into house are approved | bradford telegraph and argus.

  https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18067836.plans-convert-former-church-great-horton-house-approved/.

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  At least this former KH in Bradford will help house someone with a disability because it is all on the flat.

  Plans to convert former church in Great Horton into house are approved | Bradford Telegraph and Argus.
  

  https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18067836.plans-convert-former-church-great-horton-house-approved/